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2010 with 225/65/16?

Can I add 225/65/16 to my forester? Since the stock dueler are crap... I want soft ride and a tad higher...
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When I spoke with Subaru it was either 215/60 or 215/65. They never offered 225.
Are you going to notice that big a difference in ride? Likely not.
More importantly if you plan to use the donut when you have a flat you have now made the donut even smaller when compared to the other 3 wheels. Damage?

Take to you local dealerships service department.
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It should fit on the 09+. The new rear suspension setup has tons more clearance to the strut. The only problem might be clearance to the lower spring perches in the front and possibly some rubbing at full lock. I'm curious what the max tire size is on the new ones. I wonder if 30" would be possible.

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Can I add 225/65/16 to my forester? Since the stock dueler are crap... I want soft ride and a tad higher...
I am running 215/70x16's, which are almost 28" in diameter.

If you wanted a meaty look, you could go with with 235/60x16's as well. One problem with 225/65's is the very limited selection of tires in that size. Michelin Primacy MXV4 if you want a nice car like ride. This size is used on the recent Chrysler minivans, so I'm guessing there will be more of those on the market when the Chryslers start wearing out their tires.

For what it's worth, I am extremely happy with my BFG Long Trail T/A tours in 215/70x16; they ride well, don't make a lot of noise, and they seem as though they'll last a long time. I have 13-14k miles on them. There is a thread where I showed some pics...http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...6s-09-a-43823/. I like the taller look; closest spot is at the front of the rear wheel wells.

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I am running 215/70x16's, which are almost 28" in diameter.

If you wanted a meaty look, you could go with with 235/60x16's as well. One problem with 225/65's is the very limited selection of tires in that size. Michelin Primacy MXV4 if you want a nice car like ride. This size is used on the recent Chrysler minivans, so I'm guessing there will be more of those on the market when the Chryslers start wearing out their tires.

For what it's worth, I am extremely happy with my BFG Long Trail T/A tours in 215/70x16; they ride well, don't make a lot of noise, and they seem as though they'll last a long time. I have 13-14k miles on them. There is a thread where I showed some pics...http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...6s-09-a-43823/. I like the taller look; closest spot is at the front of the rear wheel wells.

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is the ride better then the duelers? i want a smooth ride and quite too..
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is the ride better then the duelers? i want a smooth ride and quite too..
What pressure are you running in the Duelers? Stock recommendation is 30 front, 29 rear. I run maybe 33-35 in the fronts, with 1 or 2 lbs less in the rears. Lower pressures will reduce fuel mileage.

If you have 40 lbs of air in any tire, they will ride noticeably harder. I perceive the Forester as having a very nice ride to begin with but would be reluctant to say that it is that much better with just the change to a slightly taller tire.

If you want the best ride possible, I think you want Michelin Primacy MXV4's in the 225/65x16 size. I have had MXV's or MXV4's on four different vehicles over the years, and they will indeed give you the best smooth ride and will be quiet. They are the supreme luxury touring tire in my experience.

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I settled for the Primacy MXV4... What is your opinion on this one? It seems to be the best and I can get it for 600 installed
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I settled for the Primacy MXV4... What is your opinion on this one? It seems to be the best and I can get it for 600 installed
Did you read my post? That is the tire I recommended to you for a good ride.

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Did you read my post? That is the tire I recommended to you for a good ride.

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I was just agreeing with you... Will get it today and I got a good deal for 640 installed and balanced.
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Got the tires everyone and I must say they are awesome. Is like I ride on clouds. One thing I am concerned is the weights. The Dueler were 23lbs and this new ones are 27. Something can go wrong? Let me know.
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Got the tires everyone and I must say they are awesome. Is like I ride on clouds. One thing I am concerned is the weights. The Dueler were 23lbs and this new ones are 27. Something can go wrong? Let me know.
I wouldn't worry about the few lbs of extra weight. The off road type tires like Grabbers and AT/S's are probably more like 30 lbs. A bit more weight to accelerate and brake, and a bit more unsprung weight for the suspension to deal with.

Like I said, I've had the MXV4's in four different generations on different cars, and when I've changed over, it has been amazing. My wife's 07 Civic has a set on it, and it made the car ride like the chassis was $10k more expensive.

They will also last you a LOT of miles.

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I wouldn't worry about the few lbs of extra weight. The off road type tires like Grabbers and AT/S's are probably more like 30 lbs. A bit more weight to accelerate and brake, and a bit more unsprung weight for the suspension to deal with.

Like I said, I've had the MXV4's in four different generations on different cars, and when I've changed over, it has been amazing. My wife's 07 Civic has a set on it, and it made the car ride like the chassis was $10k more expensive.

They will also last you a LOT of miles.

George
I agree. The car now feels like a town car but but a bit noisier in the suspension department. This tires are just awesome. Thank you again. The good thing is that I found someone to get my other tires for 250 and had the new ones installed for 640. Not a bad trade.
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