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Oh I wish I were a POST HO too!!
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Wow...that is awesome. car looks good esp. with the RPF1's, i forgot but is Stance a japanese company or US?
Forester specific is the way to go More pics! also- are those the LX's or GR's
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x2 springs rates and the recommended maintenance intervals.
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These are rebound only, single adjustable, compression remains constant. Stance does make the GR+3 which i can get for the Forester if you'd like and that will adjust:
Low Speed Rebound Hi Speed Rebound Compression 3 way adjustable but nearly twice the cost of the GR+. We can actually slam the car more but only with the GR+Pro model of coilover. This would allow you to rock a helper spring up front so you can get anywhere from 1-2" of droop. This spring droop will allow you to get max dumpage with slight sacrifice in ride quality depending on how far you go. VincenzoL and i made up a video of how to do some initial settings on the stance coilovers. Please pardon our weak technology, wife's Sony point and shoot camera doing the movie thing. INITIAL PREP OF COILOVERS, INSTALLING ADJUSTER KNOBS ![]() ADJUSTING SPRING PRELOADS: ![]() ADJUSTING RIDE HEIGHT VIA LOWER BRACKET ![]() RELOCATING CAMBER PLATE ALLEN BOLTS FOR ADDITIONAL CAMBER ADJUSTMENT ![]() RE-ADJUSTING RIDE HEIGHT ON CAR AFTER BASELINE MEASUREMENTS ![]() Thanks, rishie |
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Stance is a USA based company with manufacturing done overseas. I'm not sure where because it really doesn't matter. All that matters are results and value. Which these appear to have both. I'm working hard to get some testing done in the Subaru market simply because of the price point of these coilovers. If we can setup various spring rates for various types of driving or objectives this is ALMOST a "TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE" COILOVER. Fortunately with guys like Vince and myself we know it will not miss a beat. We are very particular, not too mention we have wife and child, a very tough audience.
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Yeah, I was all jazzed on the idea of a Forester specific coilover by these guys.I don't get around to taking pics of the car very often but I'll try to do so very soon. I've done a few other minor things to it and I have a small assortment of parts waiting to be installed. Maybe I need to get a member journal going too. LOL!
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So far I'm more than happy with these. I'm even thinking of getting a set of snow tires/wheels for next winter and raising it way up for a snow-boarding trip w/ the fam!
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wow those loook sweeeet!! how is the ride comfort? have u rode/drove a forester with swifts? how does it compare ride quality and comfort-wise. also did you ride it with that max height?? crazy if someone kept that as a DD height lol
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Have any shock dyno results of the dampers? I'd love to see the profile and range of adjustment of these. With the rebound only adjustment, you would effectively be similar to the Koni inserts. If you are not willing to provide dyno plots could you answer if the dampers are linear, progressive, or digressive? (or of a specific focus) What is the static compression rate kg? (pick a speed, 0.3m/s seems to be the most common) What is the range in rebound rates kg lowest and highest? (again at 0.3m/s) I'm just curious how it compares to other options and what spring rates it may suit.
I'll make a note that KYB's AGX and Tokico's D-Spec struts do not have a fixed compression rate but rather adjust in proportion to the rebound, AGX roughly 40%/100% and D-Spec roughly 50%/100% compression/rebound percentage. Something like the Stance coilover or Koni Yellow insert, you get a fixed compression rate, so with different springs, the relative compression will vary. It may be 30%/100% or 60%/100% depending on the spring rate you pick. The bump harshness will remain the same which can be comfy, but the damper sort of doesn't fully adjust to the spring. It sort of constrains the damper to a smaller spring rate range, not bad if you want the spring rates to begin with. If you want something farther out of range, the ride quality/behavior may suffer. I'm no expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt, just what I think. It's just good for people to understand what changes and how it affects the end result and how one suspension option compares to another. As well, what do you warranty for durability/use? If the damper does support somewhat softer rates, would it be advisable to use these coilovers for, say, rally-x use. I ask because something like KYB's AGX and Tokico's D-Specs do hold up to rough abuse. Koni's Yellow inserts do not however and will blow relatively easily. If the Stance coilovers are not capable of rough use, how expensive is a rebuild if one does blow? Are you selling them with custom spring rates of the customer's choosing or will it be fixed rates primarily? If the rates are custom tailored to the customer, what rates do you offer? ...like how small of increments? Within 0.5k increments? I do like the Stance design. The ride height adjustment is unique and a pretty darn good idea. What is the travel range of this coilover set from full extension to full compression? A side note from OP's comparison. The stock WRX springs are pretty soft, similar to oem Forester really, just a tad stiffer. D-Specs set soft to support these springs will ride much like a stock car. ANY stiff package will ride vastly different, add solid top plates to boot. I'm just bringing this up because it is very much an apples to oranges comparison here. To directly compare something like the D-Specs (or any other option) it would be best to compare a package with similar spring rates. This would narrow down the benefits of a damper design mainly to the damper profile alone. It's tough to call something good or bad simply because the car will automatically feel so vastly different from the get go. You just can't compare unless you are familiar with or get used to and can pick out the details. |
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Actually Vince had Dspec and Swift in the FXT before we put these in. That setup will ride nicer but not have the amount of reduced roll or steering response that the Stance give you. I know that by replacing the stance springs with swift it will also improve the ride quality some. That's his next step after saving some money.
So the stance will adjust compression and rebound simultaneously. Obviously more rebound. They have a 1 year warranty and offer full damper replacements. Replacement cost for inverted dampers might be around $150 per corner. Not sure how durable the seals and stuff are for Rally use. That's a question for them directly. It can support +/- 3kg/mm according to Stance. I believe the spring rates are 8/6 I'm not sure if I answered all the questions, sorry it took so long to get up here. He's still rocking them, just got some new RE01R's for his RPF1's, aligned, and raised the car just a tad. i'll need to grab some pics. I don't have shock dynos on hand but can request them from stance. Last edited by AUTORND; 01-28-2010 at 12:20 PM. |
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