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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-28-2007, 09:14 AM Thread Starter
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Question Confused about cargo capacity

I've narrowed my new car choice down to a Forester or an Outback but I'm confused about the cargo capacities, especially the Foz.

The glossy literature lists 68.6 cu ft for the Foz and 65.4 cu ft for the Obk when the rear seats are folded flat. However, http://www.cars101.com lists the Foz as having only 57.7 cu ft. What gives?

Either way, it looks like I could use the space in the Obk more effectively, and so carrying more stuff, than in the Foz. Those big wheel wells (strut towers) really look like they get in the way.

Anyone have experience in really packing stuff into either of these?


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Yes. It looks like the Outback should have more room but I think they're actually very close. The eyeball fools you a bit because the shapes back there are different. For certain, the OB will let you put in longer stuff, while the Forester holds tall stuff better. A couple advantages of the Forester's storage 'box':

- the aforementioned height. IIRC, several folks have put full-blown kitchen appliances, still in the box, back there.
- the rear glass is near vertical, whereas the OB's sloped tailgate intrudes a bit on boxier cargo.

On the other hand, the seats go flat on the OB while the load floor of the Forester with the seats down is not perfectly flat - it ramps up a few inches from rear to front.

I'll agree that the strut towers do intrude a bit. On my typical load, it's a pretty good pinch to get my toolbox and big luggage bag back there. Rumor is that this should be decreased with the new Forester, since it's expected that it will share the new suspension design with the Impreza and gain a little more usable width in the process.

If you get a chance, take some typical luggage with you to the dealer and try out both cars. That's what I normally do when looking for a new work car for me.

Edit: welcome aboard. Good luck with your decision - both are very nice cars.


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I can fit a ton of stuff in the Foz. Just last week I fit a 50 inch plasma still in box in the back of the Forester with room to spare!! As Dan said though, each has a lot of room and which ever you choose you will enjoy it!
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Some very useful info from cars101.com...

2008 Forester:



A: 36" width at bottom of gate opening
B: 53.5" width at floor
C: 41.5" width at wheel well, see D
D: 37.5 width at cargo hooks in wheel well
E: 46.5" width at middle of gate opening
F: 53.25 maximum width at side rails at cargo cover (not shown)
G: 13" floor to top of wheel well or bottom of cargo cover (not shown)
H: 31.5" floor length to back of seat
I: 62" floor length to top of rear seat when folded down flat (max depends on front seat position)
J: 32.25" height gate opening bottom to top
K: 34" height floor to ceiling center of floor, see L
L: 31" height floor to ceiling's low area where the rear shoulder harness retracts


2008 Outback:



A: 39" wide lower gate opening
B: 43" wide mid-gate opening
C: 48" wide top of wheel wells
D: 42.25" wide between wheel wells
E: 33.50 " height opening at gate
F: 29-31" interior height depending on where you measure
G: 43" length with seat folded up
H: 73" length with seat folded flat

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The glossy literature lists 68.6 cu ft for the Foz and 65.4 cu ft for the Obk when the rear seats are folded flat. However, http://www.cars101.com lists the Foz as having only 57.7 cu ft. What gives?

This is because the Forester is taller and thus has more "airspace". Reality is, you don't typically make use of the higher elevated storage capacity unless you fill the hatch with dirt, or large furniture. If you are referring to a Legacy Outback, the Legacy is slightly longer and thus has more usefull space. I noticed a distinct loss of several inches of length going from a Legacy to a Forester. Most noticeable when cramming mountain bikes in the back with the wheels still on. Easy on a Legacy, typically need to remove the front wheel on a Forester. I think the Legacy is about 6 inches longer for storage with the seats DOWN.
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Hmm, those photos above show that the OB seats are NOT all the way flat, unlike what I said. We checked that out a bunch when shopping for Marcy's car and I could have sworn they lay completely flat. They certainly do on her Legacy sedan...

Well, check that when you go look at the cars.

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Hmm, those photos above show that the OB seats are NOT all the way flat, unlike what I said. We checked that out a bunch when shopping for Marcy's car and I could have sworn they lay completely flat. They certainly do on her Legacy sedan...

Well, check that when you go look at the cars.
Older model Legacy/OB wagon had a dual fold action and hence a lower, flatter but shorter floor. Maybe you looked at one of those?

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Nope, was definitely an '08. That'd be kinda odd that the sedan would go flat but not the wagon... but they are quite different inside even though they're mechanically related. Crud - wish I could remember for certain. Maybe I mixed up the two in my mind, or maybe the seats simply aren't down all the way in the photo.

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I have the Foz and the GF has the Legacy Outback.

Foz would fit a more square object and the Outback would fit more of a long and slender object.

2X4X10' fits in my foz, but with it sitting on the dashboard diagonally. In the Outback, a 2X4X10' fits in with no problems.

It all depends what you want to haul in there. I wasn't worried and figured I would rent a trailer or borrow a friends pick-up if need be. Don't buy the car for the room it gives, buy the car for what you like about it. A 5 spd Forester is a hell lot more fun to drive then a Legacy Outback.

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Anyone have experience in really packing stuff into either of these?
I can pack a surprising amount in there. If it doesn't fit, I have options. The roof box goes on for long vacations. The trailer gets hitched up for anything that won't fit inside. I can always hire a van for the one time a year that I might have something really huge to shift.

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I was able to fit a large front load washer in the box, a large front load dyer in the box, and even a 36" double oven in the box in the back of our Forester (at different times obviously). There is no way the boxes would have fit in an Outback. It was nice to not need to borrow a truck.

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Don't buy the car for the room it gives, buy the car for what you like about it.
Agreed, the difference in cargo space between the two isn't much compared to some of the other differences. The OB is quieter, the Foz is more engaging to drive. Also, if you are buying new I'll bet the dealership will be more willing to deal on the Forester.


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Reality is, you don't typically make use of the higher elevated storage capacity unless you fill the hatch with dirt, or large furniture.
... or three hockey bags! We can easily fit a third hockey bag stacked on top of the other two in the hatch of the Forester because of the extra height - three will not fit in an Outback.

The same would apply to any other similiar materials. Although I would not stack any "hard" materials that could not be secured properly (the risk of shifting during sudden maneuvers is too high).
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Just in case anyone was wondering, the Forester will also hold 109 large pizzas... that's with the rear seats folded and the passenger seat still open!


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Did Slynki smell like pizza for a week or two after that? I carried a just cooked turkey in my Forester for 15 minutes on the way to my parents and I swear I can still smell it.

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