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Old 12-07-2011, 04:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Oil filter for 2012 forester non-turbo 15208AA130 vs. 15208AA160?

I've heard that the 160 is the one only the factory has access to and the 130 is the one available on the market. Can anyone else confirm or dispute this. Please give me advice about if I can use the 130 on my new 2012 non-turbo forester. I know there are other posts with this information but only a few replied and I didn't get a clear cut picture about which filter type I can use. Thanks everyone.
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My understanding is that the two are slightly different sizes, but they appear to be functionally interchangeable.

My '12 OM (page 11-12) indicates that either filter is suitable for the FB25 n/a (non-turbo) engine.

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Now I wish i'd looked at the part# printed on the factory oil filter I took off. I'm assuming the 130 is smaller vs the 160. The one I took off was much smaller than the one the dealer gave me to put on. (both black). I'm guessing a money saving measure due to the fact the first oil change is due at 3000mi.
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Courtesy of scoobymods.com:

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New info from Nick Snow at Sunset Subaru : Sunset Subaru

FB 4 cyl filter fat (black) part # 15208AA130

FB 4 cyl filter skinny (black) part #15208AA160

The skinny filter is brand new, mid production run change. It's
interchangeable on 2011/2012 Foresters, but "future" models may require the
use of the skinny ones.
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Interesting. My MY11 built in July came with the skinny black 160 filter. I just bought new ones to change my own oil and received the fat black 130s. They are a lot fatter. I am relieved to confirm that they are indeed correct.
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Interesting. My MY11 built in July came with the skinny black 160 filter. I just bought new ones to change my own oil and received the fat black 130s. They are a lot fatter. I am relieved to confirm that they are indeed correct.
My 2012 came with the 160 filter and the 130 are the ones I bought. I haven't seen this type of filter change before between what the consumer can purchase vs what the factory places on a car. As long as they are interchangeable I'll be good to go. Thank you for the replies. If anyone has other info feel free to post.
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I checked our new '12 Forester's engine oil filter this AM: it's a 160. It's very close to the popular Purolator PureONE PL14610 in size, and several key specs are the same or similar:

Subaru specs (from 2012 service manual)
By-pass valve opening pressure kPa (kgf/cm2, psi) 160 (1.6, 23.2)
Outer diameter width mm (in) 68 85 (2.68 3.35)
Installation screw specifications M 20 1.5
PL14610 specs (from website)
Relief Valve P.S.I. 14-18
O.D. 2.69 Height 3.52
Threads M20-1.5
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I haven't seen this type of filter change before between what the consumer can purchase vs what the factory places on a car. As long as they are interchangeable I'll be good to go. ...
Our '11 came with the 130. Subaru, Toyota and Honda provide different part numbers from their OEM JDM parts for service replacement stateside. On my Toyota, the service replacement did not work well v. the OEM. Our '09 came with a JDM tokyorokki and the service part is a Honeywell canada (fram.) My big q is why the change and I hope it not detrimental - cVVT are VERY sensitive to oil pressure changes be they due to running viscosity or filter. I know the filter should not make a noticable difference in operation - but it did on my toyota 1nz.
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My '11 came with the 160 filter and I received the 130's when I ordered them online. I hit the roof when I pulled the 160 and looked at it vs the 130 - I thought they sent me the wrong filters. The owners manual in my car states that the 130 is the specified filter. Good to go.
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Our 2011 came with the 130 and the replacements I bought at the local dealer are also 130's.
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My '12 came with a 160 from the factory. Called Annapolis to order new ones and after running my VIN, that's what they told me I needed. I think his name was Kevin but that was a couple of months ago. Asked if they were interchangeable and he said yes, but the 160's were all they had and that was the new filter that Subaru was going with. Long story short, I have 10 part #160 filters.

Right or Wrong, that's what I have. I personally don't think there would be a difference in them so I am satisfied. He made it seem as if the 130's are going away ...
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Here's an interesting picture:





That's a a -12 blue filter on the left, and a -130 on the right.

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Got a new one for you guys. I thought I would get a OEM Subaru filter for my oil change this time. They looked up my VIN, and tried to sell me a blue filter saying that my car needs that particular one. I thought the 2012 Forester with the FB25 engine took the black filter. Has anyone else encountered this?

Sorry if I re-lived a thread that I shouldn't have.

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The blue filter is basically a Fram unit and is what the dealers are peddling these days. IMO the black -130 or -160 units are superior construction wise but you probably need to go on-line to get them.

https://www.subaruonlineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1326 (for instance).
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