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So far that is the only information we have on when to expect the 2015 Forester.
Over in this thread, one of our forum members who works in Subaru sales at a dealership said this:

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I have no info on the my15 Subarus yet and our Subaru rep was just in talking to us about the 14 Foresters. He did say that the 15s will be a normal release in the mid to late summer of 14 but offered no details on possible changes to them.
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That is the reason they delayed the release by over 2 months.

They had a lot of them built, but went back through and fixed the issues with the transmission never making it to 9th gear.

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I agree though, it will be interesting to see how it performs.
Just for fun, I test drove a Cherokee (with the V6) and it was pretty nice. MPG suffers with that engine, but nice ride, nice power (without requiring premium gas) and I actually like how it looks. Rear seat legroom is acceptable, but not as good as Forester and of course outward visibility isn't as good. And Jeeps tend to be among the least reliable vehicles (some Jeep owners claim it's because they tend to be abused by their owners). Although very unlikely, if something keeps me from getting a '15 Forester, I could see the Cherokee being my next choice (previously I'd have said that would be the Mazda CX-5).
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Received this evening from Grand Subaru:

"Subaru just announced tomorrow evening will be the cut-off date to order a new 2014 Forester! All orders must be placed before 9PM tomorrow night.
Orders for the 2015 Forester models will resume in March of 2014!"


I think I will hold out for a 2015. Perhaps the radio connectivity will be better, and they may make the AWP available on the XT-Premium. Maybe a more vivid color choice too.

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Received this evening from Grand Subaru:

"Subaru just announced tomorrow evening will be the cut-off date to order a new 2014 Forester! All orders must be placed before 9PM tomorrow night.
Orders for the 2015 Forester models will resume in March of 2014!"


I think I will hold out for a 2015. Perhaps the radio connectivity will be better, and they may make the AWP available on the XT-Premium. Maybe a more vivid color choice too.
I wouldn't bet on any major changes in the '15 Forester. Maybe some minor improvements, but I wouldn't expect anything major. They have a winner on their hands, why mess it up.

So between tomorrow night and March of '15 no one can get a Forester except the ones sitting, if there are any, on dealerships lots? They lose 3 months of sales? Don't make sense.
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I wouldn't bet on any major changes in the '15 Forester. Maybe some minor improvements, but I wouldn't expect anything major. They have a winner on their hands, why mess it up.

So between tomorrow night and March of '15 no one can get a Forester except the ones sitting, if there are any, on dealerships lots? They lose 3 months of sales? Don't make sense.
The pipeline of 2014 Foresters to sell will continue to flow to the dealers, the limitation will be that SOA will not accept new orders, just as they have done at model year end each year before. Buyers will pick from what is available or already dealer ordered, instead of ordering and waiting several months for a specific content vehicle. No more sales lost than any other model year changeover. Buyers will pick from stock or committed deliveries, and congratulate themselves on a quicker acquisition. Fussy buyers will wait, as they always do.

Radio changes from year to year are common, Consumer Reports published their complaint about the 2014 premium model radios connectivity limitations. 2015 model year may address this.

Model year changeover is a time SOA can respond to consumer requests for content changes for the upcoming model year. Other markets can already get AWP cloth seat XT's. The existing Forester tan exterior color is available with XT's elsewhere (and looks good), why not the US market? Providing existing content would not substantially increase manufacturing costs, (inventory costs, maybe) it's already made for other markets. Subaru of Canada does not seem to have an issue with AWP cloth seat XT's. It's not that much warmer in the northern US. $400 to $500 for the AWP is a bargain many XT-P buyers would rather pay to Subaru than the aftermarket.

Almost every new model year brings a color change. How about a nice copper or gold color for the new year? Or use up the WRBlue paint that is being discontinued with 2015 WRX's, limited to XT's only. Honor the heritage.

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Received this evening from Grand Subaru:

"Subaru just announced tomorrow evening will be the cut-off date to order a new 2014 Forester! All orders must be placed before 9PM tomorrow night.
Orders for the 2015 Forester models will resume in March of 2014!"


I think I will hold out for a 2015. Perhaps the radio connectivity will be better, and they may make the AWP available on the XT-Premium. Maybe a more vivid color choice too.
I just received an email from a Southern dealer with a similar story.

"Subaru closed the sold order system for the 2014 model year on December 5th"

"Subaru is going to open the order system in March or April for the 2015 Forester"

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I would consider that to be the most reliable info thus far.
That Subaru representative didn't know as much as we do on this forum. Why am I not surprised?

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That Subaru representative didn't know as much as we do on this forum. Why am I not surprised?
open orders in April = mid to late summer deliveries. they tend to run between 8 and 12 weeks from order to on the lot.

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That Subaru representative didn't know as much as we do on this forum. Why am I not surprised?


Subaru is not Amazon.com. Your order is not going to arrive in 2 days.

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Subaru is not Amazon.com. Your order is not going to arrive in 2 days.
When do you expect the 2015 Foresters to be on the lot?

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That Subaru representative didn't know as much as we do on this forum. Why am I not surprised?
My 2 cents: They don't want to tell you anything that will cause you to defer a purchase.
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When do you expect the 2015 Foresters to be on the lot?
Well, considering the following quote was for the 2014 models, I would think maybe July delivery for orders.

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Factory orders placed in January will be May delivery, possibly April. Orders placed in February will for June delivery, possibly May.
- Cars101.com about 2014 Forester.

Maybe I am a fool, but I would think the person who works for Subaru (Irongrave) knows more about when and how the ordering/delivery process works than random people chiming in here. To make a comment like you did above is uncalled for.

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To make a comment like you did above is uncalled for.
It was based on my experience with the Subaru manager for web sales at the largest dealership in Phoenix. When I told him that the Fleet Vehicle website had announced the early cut-off date for orders (which has now been confirmed to be true) he knew nothing about it.

This is just one example. I think few of us have much faith in what we are told at the dealerships.

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Well, considering the following quote was for the 2014 models, I would think maybe July delivery for orders.
If it is late as that then I think we have a broken business model, at least for those dealing with American sellers. Buying a car is fraught with anxiety, most buyers knowing the dealer is out to extract as much as possible out of the deal. No other shopping experience is like this. Well, maybe mattresses and recliner chairs.

You are right, it is not Amazon.com, but it would sure be nice if it was.

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Yeah right this is not Amazon but I dare question - WHY NOT ? This damn collusion between dealers and manufacturers doesn't benefit the buyer at all ! I pay and therefore car manufacturer's need to listen to me first and keep my interest front and center. Who and what are these dealers doing in between ! I don't give a damn about them. I'd rather buy directly from SUBARU.COM and have my car delivered directly at my door step. That day my friend is around the corner !!! Car dealers around the globe must figure out other businesses to pursue.
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