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bl8000 03-14-2013 09:06 AM

Anyone know the warranty on the 14' Forester 2.5i in the US.

Can't seem to find it on the Subaru website.

Thanks!

toysbyus 03-14-2013 09:19 AM

If the cars sell decently (which they will), I'm sure that some of these features will become more easily available throughout the Forester line........

Steve

dawgMobile 03-14-2013 09:22 AM

Actually the limited and touring NA (the limited is what I'd shop for because of this) does have hill descent as part of the x-mode, but that's useless above (I think) 25 mph.

X-Mode 03-14-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgMobile (Post 1435658)
So I've talked my DW into seriously considering swapping up to the '14. But now I'm plagued with questions (of course). Maybe someone here can answer: (1) is there anyway of engine braking when descending a mountain (40-60 mph)? I know one could with paddles, but we aint getting them. Similarly: (2) does the better power curve mean that my old sport mode is unnecessary?

According to Subaru's Drive Magazine, you can select the Low Shift Mode-to downshift for engine braking control. Link is on Pg. 275, post #4118- Subaru Drive SPR 13: 2014 Subaru Forester. It talks about it on Pg 5. Hope this helps!

lllusion 03-14-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cris (Post 1432402)
if thats their thinking, i dont see the logic cause rear passengers are not the buyers, drivers are, this is not a rolls royce or maybach.

Agreed. This is the issue I have with raising the passenger seats thereby creating a 3" rise in the cargo floor with rear seats folded.

stan_t 03-14-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by X-Mode (Post 1436154)
According to Subaru's Drive Magazine, you can select the Low Shift Mode-to downshift for engine braking control. Link is on Pg. 275, post #4118- Subaru Drive SPR 13: 2014 Subaru Forester. It talks about it on Pg 5. Hope this helps!

According to the testers in Ukrainian video posted here earlier, X-mode works up to 40km/hr, which is 25mph. Hill decent is handled by X-mode (testers say that X-mode replaced the low range previously available on some models). Based on this info, X-mode will not be helpful between 40 and 60mph where dawgMobile needs it. Have fun riding the brakes.

Stan

dawgMobile 03-14-2013 09:48 AM

I'm assuming that L is like shifting to 1 or 2. I tested it and it seemed about equivalent to 1 on my SH. I'm pretty sure it would not be happy going down tiger mountain at 65 mph.

X-Mode 03-14-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by stan_t (Post 1436226)
According to the testers in Ukrainian video posted here earlier, X-mode works up to 40km/hr, which is 25mph. Hill decent is handled by X-mode (testers say that X-mode replaced the low range previously available on some models). Based on this info, X-mode will not be helpful between 40 and 60mph where dawgMobile needs it. Have fun riding the brakes.

Stan

Maybe somebody that has taken delivery of the new 2.5i Forester(in the US since Canadian models have paddle shifters) can jump in but if you have the CVT you have a L mode on the shifter which is what I am talking about. X-mode is only for offroad and slower speeds. Putting the vehicle into L mode will give you engine braking. Check out the link for yourself.

stan_t 03-14-2013 09:57 AM

So, I guess the question is how the "L" works in real world, hopefully someone that has the new car can comment. I myself am curious about how the CVT will behave going down a hill at that speed, does it try to keep the engine at certain RPM regardless of speed?

Stan

Mad Dog 03-14-2013 10:15 AM

CVT "L" Mode for Engine Braking
 
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Originally Posted by stan_t (Post 1436330)
So, I guess the question is how the "L" works in real world, hopefully someone that has the new car can comment. I myself am curious about how the CVT will behave going down a hill at that speed, does it try to keep the engine at certain RPM regardless of speed?

Stan

Yeah, that's the question. I see also in the owner's manual (7-27) it says, " 'L' is for using engine braking when going down a hill, etc." That's all it says.

archmikus 03-14-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bl8000 (Post 1435938)
Anyone know the warranty on the 14' Forester 2.5i in the US.

Can't seem to find it on the Subaru website.

Thanks!

Warranty info is listed on Subaru's Forester Specs page. Standard 3yr/36,000 mile warranty (5yr/60,000 powertrain). You probably couldn't find it because they listed it under the "Optional" tab, even though the warranty is standard. Seems to me the only thing that should be listed under "Optional" are things that are - wait for it - optional!

bl8000 03-14-2013 10:59 AM

Haha, that was the only tab I did not check. Thanks Archmikus!

the_webers_inc 03-14-2013 11:15 AM

I'll be curious to see how "L" works in the Forester. Had a 2005 Ford Five Hundred AWD Sedan with a w/CVT that had drive and low as well. you could select Low at 60 MPH & the RPMs would rise to 3500~4000RPM on the flat. Start down a hill, brake a bit, the RPM's would rise further as needed for aggressive engine braking. Also found that L provided the quickest starts - get moving from a stop in L & bump it to D. I do miss that car & CVT.

kballs 03-14-2013 11:45 AM

Because the shifter is just changing software behavior in the CVT (it doesn't do anything mechanical), the L mode could conceivably provide continuous downshifting/engine braking at any speed, rather than being a fixed ratio (1st or 2nd gear like some are saying). So in theory it could work at both freeway speed and crawling speed. It could even vary the engine braking based on accelerator pedal application (let off for full engine braking, push down a little for moderate engine braking).

Whether it works that way, nobody will know until somebody tries it in these varying conditions and reports back. Don't worry about breaking the car, if it really isn't meant to work at freeway speed the computer won't let you do it (if you don't believe me, watch the Mythbusters episode on shifting an automatic into R at freeway speed).

cris 03-14-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgMobile (Post 1435658)
So I've talked my DW into seriously considering swapping up to the '14. But now I'm plagued with questions (of course). Maybe someone here can answer: (1) is there anyway of engine braking when descending a mountain (40-60 mph)? I know one could with paddles, but we aint getting them. Similarly: (2) does the better power curve mean that my old sport mode is unnecessary?

you are out of luck... i tested L when i did my first test drive of a premium CVT last week. it essenially acts as 1-2 gear. i tested it in city driving at about 40mph and the revs were ungodly high. i dont remember exacty how high, but above 3k for sure, so once i got on the freeway i was afraid to test it again.....

will tell you one thing though, as i mentioned last week when i test drove the 6 speed manual, and someone else later confirmed, the clutch pedal is EXTREMELY light and feels comfortable. you have to test it for yourself. bumper to bumper traffic will not take a toll on your knees. and if you do get a manual, i am thinking of putting together a tutorial on how to properly drive a manual without pumping the clutch pedal during most of your commute without damaging the transmission.


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