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Why a turbo model? (pros/cons of turbo vs. non-turbo) - merged thread

I see that a few treads most recommended a turbo model Forester, and I am wandering why?
Speed and power only?
Definitely not fuel mileage, 21 Hwy.
I have in mind to buy a 2004.
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It depends really. Driving a turbocharged car is unlike driving anything else really. The way it drives is just completely different. Not only do you get the extra power, but it drives effortlessly up hills, with the A/C on and trying to merge into traffic. Just really light on the pedal and it goes. So much nicer than driving an underpowered car.

So instead of thrashing a normal motor to death to get up to speed with the A/C on, you simply just drive normally and the XT takes over from there. I say test drive an N/A first, then drive the XT. You'll know IMMEDIATELY what we're on about. Turns a normal boring car into an exhilarating vehicle when you want it to be.

All in all, I would never buy another Subaru again unless it's turbocharged.

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Always bear in mind that you may not need a turbo but you NEED a turbo

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I say test drive an N/A first, then drive the XT. You'll know IMMEDIATELY what we're on about. Turns a normal boring car into an exhilarating vehicle when you want it to be.

All in all, I would never buy another Subaru again unless it's turbocharged.
I can't agree more. When we bought our '05 FXT, we first test drove an '06 LL Bean. The car was nice, but then my wife test drove the FXT and the choice was clear. We both fell in love with the turbo model, and couldn't imagine owning an N/A model. Yeah, the gas mileage isn't the greatest, but we didn't buy this car with that in mind. We actually talked about upgrading to a Tribeca at some point (due to 7 passenger seating), but my wife doesn't want to because they don't have a turbo model. Could you imagine....a Tribeca XT......lol.

I say go for the turbo model and never look back!
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Terrain also plays a part in the decision. I live in an area that is fairly flat and at sea level (not more than 150ft above sea level). Traffic isn't 'big city' bad. So the reduced maximum available power is more than offset by the decreased cost of fuel (87 octane vs 93 octane) and considerably better fuel mileage (can easily get 30mpg highway). Even getting onto the interstate here doesn't generally require full throttle. I've had my NA Forester since November 2003 and have probably opened the throttle to 100% no more than a dozen times. If I find that I need more power I get a vehicle with a 6 or 8 cylinder engine.

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Turbo-Turbo-Turbo. The turbo FXT just responds better. I have gotten 28.75 mpg at 65 mph on road trips and 24 mpg at 75 mph. 75 to 80 is my normal hwy speed. If you live in CA with mountain roads you will enjoy the turbo. Just because it has a turbo does not mean it's in full boost all the time. but it's their when you want it

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I'm averaging 25-26 MPG city with my Turbo, which is a 20g turbo, which is way bigger than the stock turbo, which means you should be able to get better city MPG than I do..

But I agree with everyone else, turbos are a necessity, you really do need one.
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The answer to small engine problems - Turbocharging.

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I would never buy an aspirated Subaru unless its a GC8 and plan on swapping it in. Subarus are best turbocharged since it is in their Rally blood. If you go NA you would not get their full expertise on turbo technology. And the engine possibilities is inmense. I had a 350z, which I poured money on it, and still did not feel fast enough. With a Turbo, power and speed is just a few dollars away. Also you get the benefits of being able to scavange left overs from WRX and STI's. Like an STI upipe, for instance; which would net you about 10hp for $40.
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I'm more than happy with my NA and good gas mileage, adequate power, cheaper to buy. Depends on your wants and perceived needs.

I think the average car enthusiast will overwhelmingly go turbo. Your average Subaru owner goes NA.

Be careful what you wish for.
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Depends on your wants and perceived needs. I think the average car enthusiast will overwhelmingly go turbo. Your average Subaru owner goes NA.
Yes, very true. Well said.
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To me the question is not why but why not which would be the dollars in fuel and if you can afford it, get the turbo because not only will you have additional power for towing, passing, steep grades and so on, but it is just a heck of a lot of fun to drive.

Originally I went looking for an AWD replacement for a 5.3L V8 Tahoe but after driving the NA model, I couldn't imagine owning it however the XT was there to save the sale for Subaru and if it weren't, I don't know what the wife would have right now but you can bet it wouldn't be the Foz and in the end, if you can swing the extra coin, get the XT and you won't regret it.

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People always cite fuel costs and higher maintenance costs as main reasons against buying a turbo. Kind of funny, because maintenance isn't really any higher for a turbo than an N/A Subie, plus there's practically no need to worry about head gasket troubles. The fuel argument reminds me of this, if you don't mind me using an analogy here: This is how I feel about buying apps - The Oatmeal

In essence, I think it heavily depends on whether you think in terms of miles per gallon or smiles per gallon. If you enjoy driving, you will get a kick out of the turbo and wonder how you ever did without one before. If you look at cars as appliances to get you from point A to point B, you may find that the N/A model is sufficient for you. Drive one of each and decide...

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Well , as for me, I bought the N/A and thought it was the smart choice. Wrong. Wishing I had the turbo:( I was on the fence when I bought the N/A. If you have any doubts, I'd say get the TURBO!
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I see that a few treads most recommended a turbo model Forester, and I am wandering why?
Speed and power only?
Definitely not fuel mileage, 21 Hwy.
I have in mind to buy a 2004.
Where do you get "21" highway? the EPA is 24 and many owners get considerably better. Let's not damn the damn the car with faint praise, shall we?

Not to mention that's it a better car all round with the turbo engine.
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