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Old 04-22-2011, 08:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi. Looking at a 99 forester that had a short block replaced according to dealer records at 85k. (was under warranty) Mileage is only about + 40k on that.

What do you guys think of this? That's basically a new engine I'd have to think. The gaskets issues should be licked right? (and certainly that should cover the 100k maintenance I'd think)

The cause... though? Don't have that. Overheated engine... timing belt broke?
(just guesses)
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cylinder was out of round. Interesting. At any rate... assume belts and gaksets would've had to have been done.
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cylinder was out of round. Interesting. At any rate... assume belts and gaksets would've had to have been done.
Don't assume anything

Given that they used a short block, I would expect the head gaskets and timing belt to have been done as part of the replacement - in fact, the head gaskets pretty much have to be done in that case. But the timing belt is iffy; they could have reused the original one, or, if they bought in a used block, kept the one that came with it.

If I were in your shoes right now, I'd be pressing them for more info on what exactly was and was not done as part of that replacement. Their records should indicate the source of the block (new or used) and any other parts that may have been replaced incidentally to that repair.

FWIW, if you're getting the car cheaply enough, factoring in the time and/or cost of a timing belt job against the purchase price and book value may be worthwhile - this is pretty much how I picked up mine, which is currently in for surgery on a compression issue. Could be a handy negotiating point, too.
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Don't assume anything

Given that they used a short block, I would expect the head gaskets and timing belt to have been done as part of the replacement - in fact, the head gaskets pretty much have to be done in that case. But the timing belt is iffy; they could have reused the original one, or, if they bought in a used block, kept the one that came with it.

If I were in your shoes right now, I'd be pressing them for more info on what exactly was and was not done as part of that replacement. Their records should indicate the source of the block (new or used) and any other parts that may have been replaced incidentally to that repair.

FWIW, if you're getting the car cheaply enough, factoring in the time and/or cost of a timing belt job against the purchase price and book value may be worthwhile - this is pretty much how I picked up mine, which is currently in for surgery on a compression issue. Could be a handy negotiating point, too.
Right. Got a confirmation on the gaskets at 85k. Still gotta get info on timing belt. Vehicle has 124k and they want 4400. Good maintenance records, supposedly.

Might a bit on the high side...
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Right. Got a confirmation on the gaskets at 85k. Still gotta get info on timing belt. Vehicle has 124k and they want 4400. Good maintenance records, supposedly.
If it's had head gaskets and a timing belt, that doesn't sound unrealistic - in this part of the world. A high-spec, clean, relatively low-mileage '98-'02 Forester with those two items in its recent service history will typically be offered at around $5500 around here, and getting in the region of $5000 for one is entirely normal. But it's also a vehicle that is very much in demand, and particularly if it's an S model with lots of options.

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Might a bit on the high side...
Possibly, but then again possibly not. It really just comes down to condition, spec, and how much demand there is for them where you are.

You may want to check the secondhand values on Edmunds, KBB, and the NADA Guide to get an idea of what your car is worth. I usually run through all three and come up with a ballpark notional average based on what they tell me; their values can vary by a noticeable margin. It wasn't mentioned if the car is being offered by a private party or a dealer, but dealers typically go by the NADA value ahead of the other two. Definitely check all three, but expect dealer pricing to reflect those values.
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Thanks for the reply... this is a private seller in the midwest. Seems to be in pretty good condition but don't know what the specs are.

It's not too far off the going price around here, at least I don't think...

Edmunds is around 3100 and 3600 for good/excellent at base package... bluebook at 4500 and 4900.

Bluebook always seems him, Edmunds low.
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