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Old 03-02-2011, 11:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Paint and Fabric Protection? or not?

This is an expensive treatment offered on all new cars but I want to know if it is really worth it...
How long does a ceramic coat actually protect your paint and when you polish it is it wearing the coat off? I would like to know more here.
Also with the fabric protector and vinyl sealent, surely it should not cost as much as it does and does it really work?

I have been offered both of these treatments as a pack and im thinking about not getting them... while i want my paint and fabric protected $2400 seems pretty steep for a treatment that I could potentially polish off... more info please.
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It's a big cash grab on the part of the dealer. You could save yourself a ton of money if you bought some decent car polish/wax, and a aerosol can of Scotch Guard fabric protector. I did that with my Fozzy and she still looks great over 1 year later.
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Also note that Scotch Guard now makes an actual automotive fabric protector available in auto parts stores. It dries very quickly and doesn't smell nearly as bad as regular scotchguard. If I'm not mistaken I paid about $3.00 for the can and it covered the entire interior of my '07. A couple of days ago my son jumped on the back seat with muddy shoes and it wiped right off so it works pretty well. As for a rust inhibitor...well, as long as you hose off underneath your car when you wash it, or occasionally get the chassis bath at the car wash, I doubt you will have a problem with rust. A good quality wax a few times a year goes MILES in protecting your paint.
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hmm, the more I hear about this the less inclined i feel to purchase it. Id love to hear some other peoples experiences.
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The general consensus seems to be "dont do it"

I found this thread in the 'justcommodores forum which was an interesting read.
Most people seem to think that they can protect their cars with a polish and a good wax a few times a year. Im starting to agree because I cannot find any information about the Advanced Fusion Pack apart from the brochure that they gave me. There is no info on how it works or how it is applied, only dealer's web sites saying that its the latest in nanotechnology.

i smell a fake
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I'm sure the protective stuff helps. But, $2,400 is alot of money.

Subaru sheet metal is very thin, my car has collected many dents from people hitting it with doors, leaning on it, etc. I dont have scratches in the pain, though. If only this protective stuff could keep the car from denting..

On a Subaru, I'd pass. On a brand new luxury car I may do this.

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Upholstery protection and paint "sealants" are some of the biggest profit items for a dealership. Gigantic ripoffs... don't do it.
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Waste of money.....no wonder the dealer love it.

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I was offered paint and fabric protection with a 5 year warranty for just 300 (=$480) here in the UK on my new 2011 diesel. I took it to save myself five years of polishing!
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I recently coated the upholstery of my '11 Forester with the Scotch Guard auto upholstery protectant. It has survived several juice spills and other toddler mishaps without a single stain as of yet. Easy to use!
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I recently coated the upholstery of my '11 Forester with the Scotch Guard auto upholstery protectant. It has survived several juice spills and other toddler mishaps without a single stain as of yet. Easy to use!
I jthink the stuff was off the market for years and years...glad its back.

Oh yea..pas on the dealer scam. H-U-G-E ripof.
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Living in a state where car rust is practically the state flower, and after having read a number of reviews where owners complained about thin/soft paint on newer Subarus, I took the package. But $2400 is pretty steep. It was $500 for me, and included a warranty to replace any upholstery that gets stained beyond repair.

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Cash Grab. I believe it's been posted elsewhere as well. Scotch Guard Automotive is only a few dollars per can and it does work. Just be sure to spray it evenly and leave your windows open. A good container of wax and quality cloths and applicators are only a few bucks and will do a llot more for your paint than any "coating". Everyone here has their favorite products for wash/wax/detail. Find your favorite and save your money.
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While some of these coatings may actually work (i.e. remain on the finish for a given period of time), they are typically not immune to scratches, blemishes, etc. that you may later find you want to remove/correct. However, removal means abrasion and abrasion means you will begin to remove the coating.

On the flip side, some of these coatings are advertised as being harder than most clearcoats and may actually offer some additional resistance to scratches (if they in fact are). ....and on a soft-paint vehicle like a Subaru, that could be a good thing.

Regardless of how legitimate a system might be that a dealer is selling, I would never buy it. ....from them. A point that is rarely brought up but I feel is crucial is "preparation". Some of these coatings are quite hard and some can be relatively permanent. The only problem is that the finish needs to be properly prepared prior to the application of the coating. Any scratches, blemishes, etc. that are not dealt with before applying the product will be locked in thereafter. ....and it won't be correctable without first removing the coating.

If you're looking for a permanent/semi-permanent solution, there are reputable, professional detailers who use products from manufacturers like Aquartz, GTechinq and Optimum. Some even offer warranties. I would much rather go with a reputable detailer than a dealership for something like this.

....btw, Optimum Opti-Coat (one such "permanent" coating) has recently become available to the public. In the past it was only sold to pros. Autogeek started selling it last Friday (for those who might be interested). It's not for the average Joe since (again) you do need to make sure your car is properly prepped. ....but for the enthusiast/DIY'er, I can see it being a big hit.
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I did NOT take the deal and now i have the whole weekend to detail my new car... but what to use?
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