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cohocarl 03-08-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crewzer (Post 1392897)
The 2014 Australian Forester's tow rating is 1,500 kg (~3,300 lbs). I wonder if the U.S.' 1,500 lb. limit is a conversion typo?

Remember NASA's Mars Climate Orbiter?

SOA's response could be interesting!

Regards,
Jim / crewzer

That's what I'm thinking also. Either that or the person in charge of putting in the correct information for the new models/trim levels didn't give a crap.
If you look at both the 2.0XT trim levels, then go to "Powertrain", it lists both as having a 2.5L, non turbo, 170hp, 174ft/lb tq. :confused:

I think some of the info on the USA website for the 2014 Forester was slapped together with incorrect information.

Time will tell.......

flstffxe 03-08-2013 12:35 PM

Subaru now has the 2014 owners manual up.

2014 Forester Owners Manual, Driving tips Towing limits are on page 8-19(19).

1,500lbs(680kg)

Loscaldazar 03-08-2013 12:38 PM

Response from SOA was disappointing. "We have released no engineering documentation as to the tow rating for the 2014 Forester."

Well that was helpful!

BAIR 03-09-2013 08:46 AM

For whatever it is worth - I just test drove the 2014 Forester and asked about the towing rating... the MANAGER confirmed the 1500 lbs tow rating for the 2014 model.

The explanation was; "Studies have shown, that most people do not need that much towing capacity. So in order to improve the fuel efficiency (that EVERYBODY LIKES) they cut out some metal from the hard points where the trailer hitches are mounted."

Darned studies... :icon_evil:

JJay03 03-12-2013 03:58 AM

I really dont understand subaru going to cvt on the 2014 forester and killing the towing capacity. Why not leave at least leave a few vehicles with a regular auto. This is why I went ahead and made a deal on one of the remaining 2013's. If the 2014 didnt have cvt I would of bought one. CVT is complete crap that should be left for nissan. Mazda has it right with the dual clutch 6 speeds. This will prob be my last new subaru unless I can get a manual or they do something about the cvt.

Loscaldazar 03-12-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJay03 (Post 1423162)
I really dont understand subaru going to cvt on the 2014 forester and killing the towing capacity. Why not leave at least leave a few vehicles with a regular auto. This is why I went ahead and made a deal on one of the remaining 2013's. If the 2014 didnt have cvt I would of bought one. CVT is complete crap that should be left for nissan. Mazda has it right with the dual clutch 6 speeds. This will prob be my last new subaru unless I can get a manual or they do something about the cvt.

Except that the 6 speed manual has the same towing capacity. So it's not the CVT.

JJay03 03-13-2013 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loscaldazar (Post 1426906)
Except that the 6 speed manual has the same towing capacity. So it's not the CVT.

If you do a google search on cvt and towing you will find that a cvt can not tow near the capacity that a reg auto can. Someone said the frame wasnt built for it but maybe they just did that to save weight since the cvt couldnt handle it anyway. Not sure ive found any cvt yet with a towing capacity over 1500lbs.

dpm 03-13-2013 07:45 AM

so why is it then that Subaru rate the CVT @ 1500kg in the UK and Oz?

JJay03 03-13-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpm (Post 1430090)
so why is it then that Subaru rate the CVT @ 1500kg in the UK and Oz?

Sorry if I missed it but is that in the manual and if so do you have a link? Maybe the 1500kg was a typo and they meant 1500lb.

crewzer 03-13-2013 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJay03 (Post 1430114)
Sorry if I missed it but is that in the manual and if so do you have a link? Maybe the 1500kg was a typo and they meant 1500lb.

Here's a link to Subaru's specs for the new Australian Forester with the 2.5 L engine and CVT. The tow spec is 1500 kg.

Neither the Australians nor the Japanese officially use pounds as a measure of weight (it's actually a measure of force anyway). Instead, all of the Australian technical specs are based on the metric system. Accordingly, it's unlikely that they meant 1500 lbs.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer

GreyingJay 03-13-2013 08:53 AM

I wonder if, ultimately, it's not an engineering issue but one of liability.

JJay03 03-13-2013 08:53 AM

Interesting the jeeps I seen with cvt dont even rate the towing capacity that high. I know North America is the odd ball when it comes to units of measurement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crewzer (Post 1430378)
Here's a link to Subaru's specs for the new Australian Forester with the 2.5 L engine and CVT. The tow spec is 1500 kg.

Neither the Australians nor the Japanese officially use pounds as a measure of weight (it's actually a measure of force anyway). Instead, all of the Australian technical specs are based on the metric system. Accordingly, it's unlikely that they meant 1500 lbs.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer


JJay03 03-13-2013 08:57 AM

Maybe they figure there are more morons in the US that abuse their vehicles lol.

crewzer 03-13-2013 10:46 AM

It gets worse. I checked Subaru's specs for the new Forester in Germany (2013 there, 2014 in U.S.), and the German tow ratings are as high as 2,000 kg (~4,400 lbs.) for the non-turbo Forester with CVT for a braked trailer at up to a 12% grade.

Regards,
Jim / crewzer

Loscaldazar 03-13-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJay03 (Post 1429402)
If you do a google search on cvt and towing you will find that a cvt can not tow near the capacity that a reg auto can. Someone said the frame wasnt built for it but maybe they just did that to save weight since the cvt couldnt handle it anyway. Not sure ive found any cvt yet with a towing capacity over 1500lbs.

My point was that the manual transmission for Subaru has traditionally had a higher tow rating than the automatic (2,400 on the manual v 2,000 on the auto for my 03 I believe). The fact that both the manual transmission and CVT have the same rating @ 1,500 lbs leads me to believe the reason for the lower tow rating lies elsewhere. The structural idea makes sense, but is ultimately unconfirmed.


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