(All Years) Oil filter discussion/Tokyo Roki replacement - Page 12

flstffxe · 11-20-2012, 12:55 PM

And to quote the black filter for the FB in the Forester side by side.

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Originally Posted by flstffxe

Putting this one in here for now. Not sure if the FB filters and EJ filters should be listed in the same thread. However some 3rd party manufactures likely list the same filter for both....

Tokyo Roki 15208AA160
Provided by: Shackletown

Specs:

OD: 86.25mm
Length: 70.18mm
Thread: M20x1.5, Roll-formed
Spring type: Stamped leaf
Bypass Valve: 23 PSID, Metal valve integrated into the end cap on the dome end.
Anti Drain Back Valve: Yes, Nitrile
Media type: Paper
Media Surface area: 1,092cm2
Beta Ratio: Unknown
Flow Rate: Unknown
Gasket style: "P" ring
Oil inlet hole/s area: Six 6.25mm holes. 184.07mm2 total area.
End caps: Metal
Can side thickness: .44mm

Observations:

- Media pleating is evenly spaced and the media is firmly bonded to the end caps.

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dvancleve · 12-26-2012, 11:36 AM

For frequent oil changes (no longer than 3750) with synthetic oil and with the desire to make getting oil filters as painless as possible, would you go with the Fram or the Wix? The Beck/Arnley seems like it is probably better than either, but harder to get and quite a bit more moolah if it has to be ordered...

Thanks, Doug

adc · 12-26-2012, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvancleve

would you go with the Fram or the Wix? The Beck/Arnley seems like it is probably better than either, but harder to get and quite a bit more moolah if it has to be ordered...

Thanks, Doug

Go with WIX.

Blue Fox · 12-26-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

Go with WIX.

+1. I've been using Wix for tens of thousands of miles on my 04 and 05 XT's, my old tuner in New Mexico recommended them (and he has a 700hp STi track car), as well as my local tuner up here recommends them as well.

flstffxe · 12-26-2012, 03:10 PM

What they said.

WIX 57712, Napa gold 7712.

Unlike the WIX 51365(8-11psid) the Wix 57712 was specifically built by WIX for Subaru applications and has the correct bypass valve pressure of 23psid.

mandolinnut · 02-11-2013, 02:57 PM

Hello,
I am getting close to the warranty being out on my Sub. So since I have to drive 1 1/2 hours to the Subaru Dealer to get my oil changed I figured I'd start doing it myself. The dealership is trying to tell me that if I don't use Subaru filters that I will have problems with my vehicle? Is that true or are they just trying to make money?

forester06x · 02-11-2013, 03:18 PM

Subaru filters are rebadged Honeywell, so I've heard. Any other filters you want to use should meet the high Subaru bypass pressure specification. No, you shouldn't have any problems running other brand oil filters.

crewzer · 02-11-2013, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mandolinnut

Hello,
I am getting close to the warranty being out on my Sub. So since I have to drive 1 1/2 hours to the Subaru Dealer to get my oil changed I figured I'd start doing it myself. The dealership is trying to tell me that if I don't use Subaru filters that I will have problems with my vehicle? Is that true or are they just trying to make money?

If you want to stick with Subaru filters, you can order a bunch from Jackie at Annapolis Subaru, a forum sponsor.

Two popular manufacturers of aftermarket filters for your car's EJ25 engine are Wix and Purolator PurOne.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer

good dog · 02-11-2013, 03:29 PM

Pick and choose a couple of EJ filters are covered Subaru oil filter comparison

Oil filter discussion/Tokyo Roki replacement

1stSub · 02-11-2013, 03:45 PM

I buy whatever popular brand is on sale...between Purolator, Bosch, and Fram. I've done all the oil changes myself and my car is near 60k miles. No leaks, no issues. Oil goes in clean, comes out kind of not clean at 5000 miles. It's pretty routine.

Don't buy into that BS the dealer sells you. I understand making money and I have no problems with that, but nothing loses my business quickly like scare tactics.

flstffxe · 02-11-2013, 04:05 PM

There is a importance of a filter meeting the correct bypass spec. Besides OEM, there are only a couple of aftermarket options that do meet the 23.2PSID bypass spec.

ZombieSloth · 02-23-2013, 08:12 PM

Would any of these fit better with UEL headers, or will they all work? I was pretty uninformed when I bought my filter a while back and need to change it over to one of these ASAP.

flstffxe · 02-24-2013, 01:40 PM

There are small size differences between brands, depending on the header some may fit better than others.

ZombieSloth · 02-24-2013, 02:03 PM

The header is just a borla UEL rep, pretty standard. Any idea which of these filters is the smallest? Going to look for all the ODs now, but if anyone happens to know off hand that would be great.

EDIT: Found what I was looking for. Thanks flstffxe for putting this all together.

Looks like the Beck/Arnley one is the best bet. Anyone know if it's fine for a 2001?

flstffxe · 02-26-2013, 12:54 PM

It will do just fine. Subaru has superceeded the filters for the EJ engines to the smaller filter now. Not all the aftermarkets have made the same change, but you're still good to go.

12-26-2012, 11:36 AM	#167 (permalink)
dvancleve Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 5 Location: Chandler, AZ Car Year: 1997 Car Model: Legacy Outback Transmission: 5MT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Which filter for frequent changes? For frequent oil changes (no longer than 3750) with synthetic oil and with the desire to make getting oil filters as painless as possible, would you go with the Fram or the Wix? The Beck/Arnley seems like it is probably better than either, but harder to get and quite a bit more moolah if it has to be ordered... Thanks, Doug

12-26-2012, 03:10 PM	#170 (permalink)
flstffxe Super Moderator Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,557 Location: Coon Rapids, MN Car Year: 2008 Car Model: Forester X Premium Transmission: 5MT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What they said. WIX 57712, Napa gold 7712. Unlike the WIX 51365(8-11psid) the Wix 57712 was specifically built by WIX for Subaru applications and has the correct bypass valve pressure of 23psid. __________________ His - 08 X Prem 5mt Hers - 08 X 4EAT Subaru oil filter comparison

02-11-2013, 02:57 PM	#171 (permalink)
mandolinnut Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 38 Location: Kentucky Car Year: 2010 Car Model: Forester 2.5X Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oil Filter for Subaru Forester 2.5X Hello, I am getting close to the warranty being out on my Sub. So since I have to drive 1 1/2 hours to the Subaru Dealer to get my oil changed I figured I'd start doing it myself. The dealership is trying to tell me that if I don't use Subaru filters that I will have problems with my vehicle? Is that true or are they just trying to make money?

02-11-2013, 03:18 PM	#172 (permalink)
forester06x Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,307 Location: Memphis TN Car Year: 2006 Car Model: FXB Transmission: 4EAT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Subaru filters are rebadged Honeywell, so I've heard. Any other filters you want to use should meet the high Subaru bypass pressure specification. No, you shouldn't have any problems running other brand oil filters. __________________ 3 Pedals and Blower Whine (WIP)-The GolfBall

02-11-2013, 03:29 PM	#174 (permalink)
good dog Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,306 Location: Dundas, Ontario, Canada Car Year: 2008 Car Model: XS Transmission: 4EAT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pick and choose a couple of EJ filters are covered Subaru oil filter comparison Oil filter discussion/Tokyo Roki replacement __________________ 2008 2.5XS 4EAT

02-11-2013, 03:45 PM	#175 (permalink)
1stSub Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 273 Location: Central Cal Car Year: 2009 Car Model: Subaru Forester Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I buy whatever popular brand is on sale...between Purolator, Bosch, and Fram. I've done all the oil changes myself and my car is near 60k miles. No leaks, no issues. Oil goes in clean, comes out kind of not clean at 5000 miles. It's pretty routine. Don't buy into that BS the dealer sells you. I understand making money and I have no problems with that, but nothing loses my business quickly like scare tactics.

02-11-2013, 04:05 PM	#176 (permalink)
flstffxe Super Moderator Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,557 Location: Coon Rapids, MN Car Year: 2008 Car Model: Forester X Premium Transmission: 5MT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	There is a importance of a filter meeting the correct bypass spec. Besides OEM, there are only a couple of aftermarket options that do meet the 23.2PSID bypass spec. __________________ His - 08 X Prem 5mt Hers - 08 X 4EAT Subaru oil filter comparison

02-23-2013, 08:12 PM	#177 (permalink)
ZombieSloth Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 154 Location: Boston Car Year: 01 Car Model: N/A Transmission: 4EAT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would any of these fit better with UEL headers, or will they all work? I was pretty uninformed when I bought my filter a while back and need to change it over to one of these ASAP. __________________ ZombieSloth - '01 SF L

02-24-2013, 01:40 PM	#178 (permalink)
flstffxe Super Moderator Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,557 Location: Coon Rapids, MN Car Year: 2008 Car Model: Forester X Premium Transmission: 5MT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	There are small size differences between brands, depending on the header some may fit better than others. __________________ His - 08 X Prem 5mt Hers - 08 X 4EAT Subaru oil filter comparison

02-24-2013, 02:03 PM	#179 (permalink)
ZombieSloth Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 154 Location: Boston Car Year: 01 Car Model: N/A Transmission: 4EAT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The header is just a borla UEL rep, pretty standard. Any idea which of these filters is the smallest? Going to look for all the ODs now, but if anyone happens to know off hand that would be great. EDIT: Found what I was looking for. Thanks flstffxe for putting this all together. Looks like the Beck/Arnley one is the best bet. Anyone know if it's fine for a 2001? __________________ ZombieSloth - '01 SF L Last edited by ZombieSloth; 02-24-2013 at 02:18 PM.

02-26-2013, 12:54 PM	#180 (permalink)
flstffxe Super Moderator Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,557 Location: Coon Rapids, MN Car Year: 2008 Car Model: Forester X Premium Transmission: 5MT Gallery: 0 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It will do just fine. Subaru has superceeded the filters for the EJ engines to the smaller filter now. Not all the aftermarkets have made the same change, but you're still good to go. __________________ His - 08 X Prem 5mt Hers - 08 X 4EAT Subaru oil filter comparison

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