flstffxe

EDIT: See this thread( Subaru oil filter comparison ) for all the filters being talked about here in the discussion thread.


I hate to do this to you guys,I really do, I hate oil and oil filter threads more then most. But here is what I have. Since the disappearance of the black Roki filters like many of you I have been in the search for a equivalent filter(hangs head low here, says under breath), not made by HoneyWell/Fram that has the correct bypass pressure of ~23psi.

Here is the best I have found,

Beck/Arnley Oil Filter
Beck/Arnley is Part No. 041-8181

It is a rebrand by Beck/Arnley made by Nippon Micro Filter CO.
Nippon Micro Filter Part No. T600

Specs:

OD: 68mm
Length: 64mm
Thread: M20x1.5
Bypass Valve: 20-25 PSI
Has Anti Drain Back Valve

Locally available at Advance Auto for ~$7

A pic can be viewed by going through the Beck Arnley Online Parts Catalog

What do you think guys, Do we have a winner?

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jgrote

I switched from pure-one to fram last oil change, because I got tired of the pure-one's leaking. I'm experienced enough to know how a filter goes on, but it leaked every damned time on both cars. Since switching to fram, no leaks. Do you know what the bypass pressure is set to on frams? I'm not opposed to beck-arnley, but I like shopping the sales. I come from the school of thought that if you change your oil often enough, pretty much any name brand oil will do. I actually swap up on purpose. I used valvoline and a fram filter on the 04 today.

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flstffxe

Thread Starter

I had a supply of the Roki, that supply is now dwindling down to 2-3 Hence the searching today.

The Subaru Honewell/Fram filters are correct with the relief pressure. My issue here, is well just that it is one I have to deal with, I have been down the Fram road many times and not had a issue personally, however I have rebuilt an engine that failed due to a fram coming apart, element came away from the cardboard end cap and a piece blocked a main bearing passage. Some of the owners of cars I service just wont use Fram... They have served me well personally.

Most every other filter has a relief pressure of <18 PSI which I am not comfortable with.

These are a few I have tracked down so far.
By-Pass Valve pressures(in PSI)
Blue Subaru/Honeywell 15208AA12A - 23
Wix - 51365, 8 - 11
PureOne - PL14612, 14-18
Purolator - L14612, 14-18
Mobil1 - M108, 11-17(not verified via Mobil1)
Fram - PH6607, 13

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adc

I am down to 7 Rocki's right now. Probably not a big deal going with the filters with the lower bypass. WIX could be a good choice even with the lower bypass bc if it bypasses it does not bypass the junky trapped particles. It bypasses near the top of the filter.

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bluesubie

12 psi's.
FRAM - Application Look-up

I've been running the Honeywell's since day one in a 99 Outback, 99 RS, and my FXT (6-8,000 mile intervals) with no issues.

-Dennis

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pleiad7

Sweet! I have about half a dozen of the Tokyo Roki fllters left, but it's good to know that there's a very similar filter still available.

Looks almost exactly like it (except maybe the lip looks a little sloppier):

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04 FXT PP PSM ~ "Subed"
98 Forester S ~ "Slynki"

flstffxe

Thread Starter

^^ thats the plastic shrink wrap protecting the gasket... until you use it.

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pleiad7

Oh I see!

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flstffxe

Thread Starter

Well I got 10 on order, store only had 1 in stock so I choose just to have them shipped to the house. When I get them I will do the obligatory cut one open and post pics. Unfortunately I am not about to cut my last Roki apart, so there will be no side by side comparo.

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pleiad7

Excellent, keep us posted!

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98 Forester S ~ "Slynki"

adc

What was the shipping charge? I checked it out. Shipping to house was the only option. If you ordered 11 filters then shipping is free.

But yea..great option. Thanks.

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flstffxe

Thread Starter

I had other items in the order also.
>$75 = free shipping
Discount Code "DEALIO" for $10 off $30, $20 off $50, or $40 off $100 or more.
$40 off $100 at Advance Auto Parts

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flstffxe

Thread Starter

Well here is what I have. Minus the ADBV, I left that on the work bench.

Basic packaging.


Comes with a static cling reminder sticker.


Now we get into the guts.






The bypass valve is spot welded in place on the endcap.


has 82.5 square inches of filter media.


Has the same shrink wrap over the base plate as the Roki did.


Also has a "P" gasket vs a round or square O-ring that are known to leak on some filters.


All in all, construction feels top notch. It is a heavy little filter, the can mics out at .019" thick on the sides and and .0209" on the end. So it more then likely started out as 25ga sheet metal prior to stamping. Threads are roll-form threads with no burrs, nice and clean. Only thing that stands out to me are the pleats are spaced uneven being grouped more towards one area. Based on the specs, the feel and visual quality I would buy again.

I wish I had a Roki(my last one left Sunday) so I could do a side by side but I don't. Here is a thread where one was cut open 5 different Subaru filter options - cut open pics - Bob Is The Oil Guy

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good dog

Nicely done, maybe the gods will smile down on you and someone will send you a virgin Roki for sacrifice.

Now what we need is our own comparison of the available filters with a breakdown like you have done.

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SuperRu

Great post. I have 15 15208aa100's sitting in my shop. Can I send you one to cut up and compare.

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04 XT.... 98S