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Originally Posted by MumblinBerk
"Detailing" confusion.
First, thanks to all for taking the time to contribute to these forums.
What an education!
With all the product out there, it seems one would be "doomed" if you just go to the auto store and pluck something off the shelf after reading the lable.
(I won't be using spic-n-span and bath towels on my cars anymore.)
I've done a ton of reading over at AUTOPIA to get myself eductated, before I comit to a particular regime / product line.
I'm starting off today with a proper wash of my (now filthy) new Foz using the right tools and techniques. I'm off to gather my basics in a few minutes.
But my concern is following the wash!
It seems that all the multi-step processes are more geared toward older vehicles that need more work. Should I really be USING a product like the "Klass Twins" on a brand new factory finish?
I don't mind doing the work, as long as I'm doing the right thing.
Would it be better for the new car finish to just use some kind of "finish" coat product right after washing?
Is AIO appropriate to use on a new finish?
If so, does it NEED to be "sealed" and waxed after?
I know these probably sound like stupid questions, but I don't want to mess things up with over-kill, which I have a tendency to do.
I keep reading about people having trouble with Klass SG removal.
Any recomendations for a more user-friendly sealer compatilbe with AIO?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Berk,
I've got stuff going on today but I will try to help briefly answer your questions....
First, kudos for taking the time to do some research on the subject. Yes, it
can get confusing especially when confronted with the myriad of products, tools and techniques that are out there. However, don't get discouraged. You will typically find a handful you can narrow it down to based on the opinions & reviews of others. ....cutting your chances down of wasting money with something you're really not satisfied with. Sometimes you just need to take a step back and put things into perspective.
Klasse AIO: K-AIO is a "all in one" product. As with others like it (Zaino AIO comes to mind), it is a relatively light paint cleanser (meant to remove light contamination, oxidation, pervious LSP's, etc.) and replace it with it's own coat of protection/sealant. ....whether your car is new or old. We're not talking about the use of heavy compounds or polishes here (which might be needed to correct scratches and or moderate/severe oxidation).
Klasse SG: K-SG is just a sealant with no cleansing abilities like its sibling. K-AIO is a relatively durable sealant in itself but SG does a better job in this respect. It is also finicky as you mentioned (which is why I never chose to use it when I was was trying out K-AIO). However, there are a few tips and write-ups that may go against the manufacturer's recommendation on use of the product but have helped others in its application/removal. The following articles are from DavidB (of Autopia) gong over the basics of the twins:
Klasse User's Guide - Autopia.org
Revisiting An Old Friend With Klasse - Autopia.org
...and here are a couple of articles showing alternative methods others have used with apparent success:
Klasse SG Wipe on, Wipe off, Official Application Instructions - Autopia.org
Klasse HGSG Application & Removal... - Autopia.org
Make sure to read all of the comments since there is sometimes some valuable insight you might miss. Also, do a search on Autopia using keywords like "Klasse SG application". After a little experimenting you will hopefully find a solution that works for you. ....and that is what really matters after all.
As for whether or not you need to do any of this (AIO, sealant, etc.) is all dependent on your particular situation. Evaluation is key. If your car hasn't had an LSP applied to it (or if it has but is no longer providing protection), then I would say you should.
btw, these are not stupid questions you are asking.