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Originally Posted by fourortwowheels
im not sure on that so i dont wanna answer that question. your local tuner should be more knowledgable on the subject. however i do know that it can be tuned out and its not cobbs fault. its in the stock ecu.
both my fsxt did this stock, stg1, and stg2. it is more prevalent in the 07+ canbus models. SOA really did a ****ty job on there stock tune.
after seeing the afrs and tq curve, i believe cobb leaves a lot of stuff alone and just tweaks some boost, fuel and timing here and there and leave it alone. it is desgined to be a base map and work on multiple vehicles. every car is different, you get where im going w/ this.
a protune should be the first mod after scoring an ap to truly benefit from it. IMHO the ol/cl delay associated w/ the 07-08 canbus cars is very scary. stock cars are blowing up, let alone modded.
the second my tbe comes in my car will be getting protuned. i cant wait....
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I understand why Subaru tuned as they have. Sure the AFR's are way to rich, and they have to run way too much timing to compensate. But that is a safe strategy. Their control systems are very adept at pulling timing. That is their strategy for margin.
I can't speak to the malfunctions with the ol/cl strategies on the 07/08's. If only tuned 02-04 cars.
I certainly do agree with the protune statement though. The canned / off-the-shelf maps suck (I don't care who you go to for them). I've reviewed many of them and I haven't seen one that was worth a damn. But, I suppose that since I'm a semi-protuner with open source (I have people bugging me to tune their car, but no one seems to want to pay for it), I'm a bit biased.